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PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby EAL0739 » Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:07 pm

Shalom and greetings all my pals,

Does anybody have any idea what routes did PSA use L1011s for, please?

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Aharon
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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby WCG0715 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:26 pm

Hi Aharon,

According to the August 1, 1974 and the October 18, 1974 PSA timetables, the L-1011's were used mostly for flights between San Francisco and Los Angeles, and also between Los Angeles and San Diego. I know they did some flights between San Jose and Los Angeles (Friday afternoon, I believe); however, I have been unable to locate those in any timetables. (I watched the first scheduled flight into San Jose and took some pictures).

I hope this helps,
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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby EAL0739 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:51 pm

Kurt,

Thanks for COOL answers and welcome to HAG virtual airline! Enjoy your stay with the VA!

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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby EAL0739 » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:23 am

Dave,

Thanks to you for adding new PSA routes to HAG schedule database. When you have chance, can you please see what you can do to add two round trip PSA L1011 routes between KSFO and KLAX as well as between KSFO and KSAN which PSA used L1011s for those routes for 2 years.

Unless you give me permission to use PSA L1011 plane for TWA L1011 route between KSFO and KSAN.

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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby David Reed » Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:30 pm

Ha! N10112 was eventually leased to Aero Peru. We have it at Aero Peru under that registration. So, when I put PSA N10112 on the board, it didn't recognize it, only Aero Peru's. So I switched PSA's to N10114, the second L1011-1.
PSA ordered the L1011, then went through delays due to the Roll Royce issues. By the time they got their airplanes, they'd already been locked into the lease and had crews trained, but fuel had gone up 200% in price, so the numbers no longer worked for the Tristar. As soon as they got them, they went looking for buyers. Seven months later they just parked them in the desert, practically new. They eventually found new homes, but PSA only operated two for only seven months. The disaster cost the CEO his job at PSA. The only routes they flew were SAN to LAX in the morning, then back and forth LAX to SFO all day, finally going home to SAN in the evening.
http://g-alyp.blogspot.com/2012/04/psas-l-1011-experiment.html
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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby EAL0739 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 9:20 am

Dave,

Thanks for fixing the schedule database oversight and that was INTERESTING link to VERY INTERESTING blog.

But the strange thing is that PSA pilots said they flew L1011s NON STOP from KSFO to KLAX and from KSFO to KSAN and back.

Another interesting fact that the blog did NOT mention is that it was NOT NOT uncommon for PSA L1011s to land via unexpected diversion at KBUR Burbank airport after flights from KSFO because KLAX was closed due to bad smogs or blinding fogs or runway debris problems or so on.

Lasting about 8 months sounds correct due to the fact it was in PSA service from 1971 to 1972 or from 1970 to 1971 which misleads public into thinking it was 2 year service, not about 8 months.

Once again, thanks for fixing schedule database oversight.

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Aharon
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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby WCG0715 » Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:04 pm

PSA did fly the L-1011 into San Jose for a short time (Yes, even shorter than between LAX and SFO)... If I had a way of posting photos, I'd put a couple up and we could play "What is this airport?".
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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby EAL0739 » Wed Apr 24, 2019 1:30 pm

Does anybody know which gates did PSA airline's L1011s usually dock at KLAX, KBUR, KSFO, and KSAN, please?
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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby EAL0739 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 8:39 am

WCG0715 wrote:PSA did fly the L-1011 into San Jose for a short time (Yes, even shorter than between LAX and SFO)


Unless I am mistaken, I think San Jose was emergency diversion for KSFO flights due to KSFO and KOAK being closed for weather or any reason the same way PSA L1101s always used KBUR for emergency diversion for KLAX for same reason.

Meanwhile I will ask PSA pilots if they did operate PSA L1101 service to San Jose

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Re: PSA L1011 Routes?

Postby WCG0715 » Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:55 pm

I gather that being there and witnessing the event doesn't count? Oh well...
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